Zachary Schultethat's okay!
11:11 AMZachary Schulteill try that after this
11:11 AMZachary Schultepatterns seem cool, i want to finally dive deep into this text
11:11 AMZachary Schultei'd like to build more pattern databases i guess for all sorts of things
11:12 AMZachary Schulteright now i'm interested in org development and interpersonal communication
11:12 AMZachary Schulteokay im gonna restart this ^.^
11:12 AMÉdouard U.i can't hear anything...checking out audio output
11:13 AMMelanie Richards+1
11:14 AMMelanie RichardsSounds good
11:17 AMÉdouard U.sick
11:27 AMÉdouard U.i can hear yall
11:27 AMÉdouard U.this computer's microphone is dead tho
11:27 AMCarly Ayressup ed
11:27 AMÉdouard U.hi
11:27 AMÉdouard U.no talky
11:27 AMÉdouard U.microphone broken
11:27 AMÉdouard U.i'll type thoughts
11:27 AMÉdouard U.oh yeah holy shit this book was so utopian
11:28 AMÉdouard U.i was loling
11:28 AMÉdouard U.at like, the idea that countryside and city could co-exist in the same spaces
11:28 AMÉdouard U.these days
11:28 AMÉdouard U.that point reminds me: I started writing in the book at certain points that I felt needed updates
11:29 AMÉdouard U.since it was written in the 70s and all
11:29 AMÉdouard U.quite a bit
11:30 AMÉdouard U.it's hard to type these thoughts
11:30 AMÉdouard U.heh
11:30 AMÉdouard U.i'll like
11:30 AMÉdouard U.update in the slack
11:30 AMÉdouard U.at a later point
11:30 AMÉdouard U.we can continue
11:30 AMÉdouard U.I think in an earlier cybernetics club we did, buut I can't grasp detail
11:31 AMÉdouard U.s
11:31 AMBrendan Schlagelreminds me of this book which is dope: https://smile.amazon.com/Origins-Form-Natural-Man-made-Things-Why/dp/1589798082
11:32 AMÉdouard U.same
11:35 AMÉdouard U.re that idea
11:35 AMÉdouard U.'how much of this is possible/outdated'
11:36 AMÉdouard U.that makes me think that it makes a lot of sense that software architects picked this book up
11:36 AMÉdouard U.since the physical contraints are too much
11:36 AMÉdouard U.yesss
11:37 AMÉdouard U.so true
11:37 AMÉdouard U.dependencies...
11:37 AMÉdouard U.etc.
11:37 AMÉdouard U.obviously
11:39 AMÉdouard U.:eyeroll:
11:39 AMÉdouard U.lmao
11:40 AMÉdouard U.ibm
11:40 AMÉdouard U.back when i was there
11:40 AMÉdouard U.2 huge
11:40 AMÉdouard U.yess
11:41 AMÉdouard U.so good
11:41 AMMelanie RichardsCarly, just added that book to my to-read :P
11:43 AMCarly Ayresdef one of my favorite reads this year
11:43 AMCarly Ayreshttps://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Rules-Technology-Stupidity-Bureaucracy/dp/1612195180
11:43 AMÉdouard U.omg
11:43 AMCarly Ayresyes
11:43 AMÉdouard U.the theories
11:43 AMÉdouard U.on how the US could be restructured
11:44 AMÉdouard U.are so fun to read about
11:44 AMÉdouard U.trying to find a certain link
11:45 AMÉdouard U.re this...
11:45 AMÉdouard U.the us should be restructured around companies
11:45 AMÉdouard U.New Googlia
11:45 AMÉdouard U.omfg
11:46 AMÉdouard U.all conversations
11:46 AMÉdouard U.lead to neoreactionaries
11:46 AMCarly Ayreshttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/09/trump-win-california-secede-calexit-silicon-valley
11:46 AMÉdouard U.the dude menicious moldbug wrote essays on that topic
11:46 AMÉdouard U.he's currently trying to create cryptographic 'property'
11:47 AMÉdouard U.via Urbit
11:47 AMÉdouard U.i think piecemeal, some of these things sound super applicable
11:50 AMÉdouard U.which is technically alexander's point he made in an earlier paragraph
11:50 AMÉdouard U.is that you can't uproot
11:50 AMÉdouard U.nyc
11:50 AMÉdouard U.for example
11:50 AMÉdouard U.and just implement these things
11:50 AMÉdouard U.that would but cray
11:50 AMÉdouard U.yeah...
11:52 AMÉdouard U.2 tru
11:52 AMÉdouard U.yes
11:54 AMÉdouard U.yessss
11:54 AMÉdouard U.totally
11:54 AMÉdouard U.taking this idea into an internet/digital context, it's interesting to think about 'allocated digital space'
11:55 AMÉdouard U.servers perhaps
11:55 AMÉdouard U.shared by multiple ppl
11:55 AMÉdouard U.yeah like what does that even mean????
11:56 AMÉdouard U.idk
11:56 AMÉdouard U.i wish slacks were easier to peer into
11:56 AMÉdouard U.that's like
11:56 AMÉdouard U.one big thing
11:56 AMÉdouard U.i think would maybe get them to be more open
11:56 AMÉdouard U.omFG
11:57 AMÉdouard U.holy shit..
11:57 AMÉdouard U.wow so many memories
11:57 AMÉdouard U.of MMO markets
11:57 AMÉdouard U.i miss irc so much!!! it was so flexible
11:58 AMÉdouard U.and open
11:58 AMÉdouard U.could be sealed shut or completely open
11:58 AMÉdouard U.that's a tough one
11:59 AMÉdouard U.idk
11:59 AMÉdouard U.where you grow memes
12:00 PMÉdouard U.meme farmers
12:01 PMMelanie Richardslol
12:01 PMMelanie Richardswhat would corn be in this analog?
12:03 PMMelanie Richardsanalogy
12:03 PMCarolyn Zhangclickbait headlines
12:03 PMCarolyn Zhangregurgitated content
12:03 PMCarolyn Zhangoo those entire articles about one instagram or whatever
12:03 PMMelanie Richardsbest of reddit/tumblr posts
12:04 PMÉdouard U.hell ya
12:06 PMMelanie Richardstruuuuue
12:06 PMMelanie Richardsmeanwhile in Seattle, someone has been yelling "asshole" for the past min or so
12:09 PMÉdouard U.this reminds me of a project by jon kyle
12:09 PMÉdouard U.let me find
12:09 PMÉdouard U.lets you visit links according to time spans you set
12:09 PMÉdouard U.so you can only click a link once every 5 min...
12:10 PMÉdouard U....or 5 years
12:10 PMÉdouard U.or 1000 years
12:10 PMCarly Ayresstumbleupon for...
12:10 PMCarly Ayresdifferent opinions / links / perspectives
12:10 PMMelanie Richardseveryone right now: am I stupid??????
12:11 PMÉdouard U.https://hardlyeverything.com/
12:11 PMÉdouard U.Confrontation Class
12:12 PMZachary Schulteconfrontation engine
12:13 PMÉdouard U.oh jeez this is a tough one
12:13 PMÉdouard U.building in confrontation into the web seems so difficult
12:13 PMÉdouard U.seems opposed to Open Web
12:13 PMÉdouard U.or could be construed as such
12:13 PMÉdouard U./shrug
12:13 PMÉdouard U.oimfg
12:16 PMÉdouard U.you know how you have to take classes for driving
12:16 PMÉdouard U.classes for using the internet
12:16 PMCarly Ayresi was just going to write that
12:16 PMBrendan Schlagellol "browsers ed"
12:16 PMCarly Ayrestheres an artist whose work focuses on teens and how they learn to use the internet
12:16 PMÉdouard U.DMV for the internet
12:17 PMÉdouard U.hell yeah
12:17 PMCarly Ayresforgetting the name, but francis knows
12:17 PMCarly Ayresbots as training for interacting with each other
12:17 PMÉdouard U.++
12:17 PMCarly Ayreshow to create your online persona 101
12:17 PMÉdouard U.whoa
12:18 PMÉdouard U.maybe internets could learn a thing or two from MMOS
12:19 PMÉdouard U.in that regard
12:19 PMÉdouard U.or large social platforms
12:19 PMÉdouard U.like,, how to intentionally pose yourself
12:19 PMÉdouard U.we should teach people that usernames are the same as actual names
12:20 PMÉdouard U."these are real people"
12:20 PMCarly Ayresconditioning for digital socialization
12:20 PMÉdouard U.city country fingers of the internet - forums for certain subject matters
12:21 PMÉdouard U.omg i was trying to remember this the whole time
12:21 PMCarly Ayresi know ed loves github
12:24 PMCarly Ayresi can figure it out **
12:25 PMMelanie Richardscarly has my favorite reactions <3
12:27 PMÉdouard U.i'd be happy to
12:28 PMÉdouard U.oh my god im so delayed
12:28 PMÉdouard U.fffff
12:28 PMCarly AyresNO
12:28 PMCarly Ayresa few days before or after
12:28 PMFrancis Tsengxmas eve +1
12:28 PMCarly Ayreslove xmas eve
12:28 PMFrancis Tsengits my bday :)
12:28 PMÉdouard U.someone be sure to copy-paste the contents of this chat
12:28 PMÉdouard U.into another format
12:28 PMCarly Ayreshbd frnsys video chat
12:28 PMFrancis Tsengnot today, xmas eve
12:28 PMCarly Ayresd'uh
12:29 PMMelanie Richardsbyeeee
12:29 PMMelanie Richards<3 <3 <3
12:29 PMÉdouard U.byebye!